Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together: The Podcast

Intro Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Be honest, how many times have you chalked up a relationship ending to bad timing? For hosts Nancy and PJ Heslin, the answer is A LOT. It took living separately in Canada, the US and France, 2 divorces and 20 years for timing to work out. And when it finally did in the South of France, the couple discovered they had two different versions of their love story. We all do, right? But what if your side is not the whole story and you have the journals to prove it? Keep listening to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between.

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Coming October 11: Episode 21

Episode 20: Do You Try To Live Up To Family Expectations? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 20: In the fall of 1995, both Nancy and PJ are in Toronto and chasing dream careers. But only one of them feels the pressure to make the family proud.Looking for dating and relationship tips? Sign up forJordan Gray Consulting's free email list at http://www.jordangrayconsulting.comRemember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.


Look for new episodes the 11th and 23rd of every month.

Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together is a light-hearted conversation on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Each episode ends with PJ reading a page from Nancy’s journals about how things really went down over the 20 years they tried to make their relationship work. Grab a cup of coffee, get comfy and start from the beginning.

Is the First Kiss a Deal Breaker? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 1: Nancy and PJ did not expect to find love while studying French in Quebec. Yet a twist of fate pointed cupid’s arrow in their direction on the first night of their 6-week immersion program leading up to a kiss that would change their lives. Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

How Does It Go from So Right to So Wrong? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 2: Back in the real world after summer immersion, Nancy and PJ try to maintain the intensity of their relationship but cracks start to show, typical of a couple in their twenties. Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Can Time Apart Fix a Relationship? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 3: Still head over heels, Nancy decides to study abroad in the South of France for a year leaving PJ and his ego a little battered. He heads off to Graduate school in Montreal but can’t stop thinking about her. Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Have You Ever Had Drunken Regrets? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 4: In the days before mobile phones and the internet, Nancy and PJ have no contact for nearly eight months. That does not stop PJ from finding Nancy when she returns to Canada. Will she say, “Yes!”?  Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Is Saying I Love You Worth the Risk? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 5: PJ invites Nancy to see him perform standup in Toronto at Christmas. Living in isolation in the Gaspésie in Quebec, she becomes obsessed over telling him she still loves him. Will it be too late?Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Ever Asked Santa For A Boyfriend? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 6: After PJ’s mixed signals at the comedy club, Nancy is hoping for a Christmas miracle when he suggests meeting up again on Boxing Day.Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Would You Share Your Secrets? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 7: The cold Quebec winter plunges Nancy into despair. She comes up with a plan to win PJ over with nostalgia, if he’ll agree to see her again.Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Do You Believe Anything Is By Chance? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 8: Living hundreds of miles apart, Nancy and PJ cannot stop thinking about each other yet their lives are taking them in different directions. Nancy heads to the east coast of Canada while PJ’s career is taking off with his first national TV commercial.Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

What Type Of Relationship Do You Think You Deserve? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

In Chapter 9, it is September 1993 and Nancy is deluded in believing her boyfriend from PEI is coming to live with her in Quebec where she is teaching. Meanwhile, in Toronto, stand-up comedian PJ is finally making an effort to reach out. Will she notice?Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Does Living On Your Own Make You A Grown Up? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 10: PJ and Nancy are each elated to be living on their own for the first time. Although they are worlds apart – standup PJ in downtown Toronto with lots of pals around and teacher Nancy outside of Montreal with no friends – they share a sense of loneliness. As friends start to marry, settle down and have kids, will they follow suit?Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Does A Relationship Need To Be Fed? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 11: Rejected and living on her own outside of Montreal, Nancy’s weight issues are tough to digest while confident PJ seems to be a rising star in Toronto.Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

What’s The Price Of Your Relationship? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 12: In the late spring of '94, Nancy’s time as a teacher in Quebec is coming to an end but she is not ready to settle down in one place or into an office career. PJ, on the other hand, is trying to figure out how to balance financial success in entertainment with having fun in Toronto.Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

When Did You Most Feel Out Of Control? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 13:  It is  summer 1994. Before heading back to the east coast of Canada to track down the boyfriend that never showed, Nancy visits PJ in Toronto. She tries to be laidback about the future but PJ sees she is a step away from a complete meltdown.Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Is Your Bar Set Too High? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 14: After her summer in PEI comes to an abrupt end, Nancy finds herself back in Toronto indefinitely, anxiety in tow. Meanwhile a lucky break for PJ is a career game changer.By the way, have you downloaded  Apple Podcasts yet?  The app is soon launching new features to make it easier and more enjoyable to listen to your favourite podcasts.  Download the app here.Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Where Were You Summer 1990? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 15: It is winter ’95 and, for the first time since they met in 1990, Nancy and PJ are both living in Toronto. Nancy is getting a crash course in office politics while PJ is having the time of his life professionally and personally. But does that include her?Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Why Do You Take It So Personally? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 16: After five years of waiting around for PJ, Nancy is fed up and decides to enter the dating pool unaware of the insecurities about to be unleashed. PJ, however, has no lack of confidence in the romance department.Paul Polman – http://www.paulpolman.com/net-positiveInner Development Goals –  http://www.innerdevelopmentgoals.orgBullyingMental Health America – https://www.mhanational.org/bullying-what-do-if-im-bulliedNational Bullying Helpline UK – https://www.nationalbullyinghelpline.co.ukBullying Canada – https://www.bullyingcanada.caBullying in the Workplace Canada – https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/psychosocial/bullying.htmlNon au harcelement France – https://www.education.gouv.fr/non-au-harcelementCyberbullying France – https://e-enfance.org/informer/cyber-harcelementAction Innocence Monaco – https://www.actioninnocencemonaco.com/en/supports/reporting-vigilanceRemember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Why Do We Ignore The Signs In Relationships? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 17: Not by design, Nancy gets a foot in the music industry door in Toronto while PJ is producing music videos for a Toronto-based film company.Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Remember That One Friend In Your Twenties? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 18: PJ moves on from being a road comic to writing  short films while Nancy dives into the Toronto music scene. Both are figuring out friendships along the way. Watch PJ's short film The Jenkins Affair.Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Episode 18 WATCH: The Jenkins Affair, a short film written by Dave Fowler & PJ Heslin with Lynn Shawcroft. (Canada, 1996).

Does Size Matter When It Comes To Shared Living Space Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 19: Working in the music industry, Nancy moves to Yonge & Eglinton – aka  Toronto’s Young & Eligible neighbourhood – while standup PJ rarely sees the light of day. Remember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.

Episode 20: Do You Try To Live Up To Family Expectations? Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together

Chapter 20: In the fall of 1995, both Nancy and PJ are in Toronto and chasing dream careers. But only one of them feels the pressure to make the family proud.Looking for dating and relationship tips? Sign up forJordan Gray Consulting's free email list at http://www.jordangrayconsulting.comRemember to subscribe to Nancy and PJ Finally Get Together, a podcast on love, relationships and the two lives in between. Share the link with friends and comment on @nancyandpjfinallygettogether. Checkout our manuscript at Nancy & PJ.com.To learn more about Life's Tough Media and their inspiring podcasts visit Lifestough.comThanks for listening.


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Nancy & PJ: The Book

A 75,000-word lived experience, nonfiction and not-so-common love story between two Canadians who met learning French. They had no choice but to be together despite continually making a muck of their relationship over 20 years.

Nancy & PJ Finally Get Together is a spinoff of our manuscript Nancy & PJ Learn French.

Based on 20 years of journals, Nancy & PJ wrote this book independently not knowing what the other said.

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Nancy Heslin
Writer, Podcaster, Media Personality

Following a hiccup of a marriage in Canada, Nancy Heslin set out for a fresh start in the South of France in 2001 and eventually entered the world of billionaires as the Editor-in-Chief of Forbes Monaco.

She is the founder of Good News, Monaco and reports on Rivera Radio. As a local media personality in the region, she has been featured on ARTE, Channel 5, BBC and the likes. She covers Monaco to St Tropez for Fodor’s Travel, is editor for ÖTILLÖ swimrun and is a former stringer for People Magazine.

PJ Heslin
Writer, Podcaster

PJ Heslin started his career as a standup comedian in Toronto in the Nineties. This led him to New York with a role on Sex in the City with a move to Los Angeles, working the red carpet for HBO interviewing celebs from Oscar winner Tom Hanks to Mick Jagger. Meanwhile he worked at LA’s comedy and music club, Largo, which is how he ended up in a Lincoln town car with Mathew McConaughey one night. The avid cyclist eventually switched to IT and then education.

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